US Military Shooting Live Animals For Training

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hasta la vista | 5 Aug 2008 - 9:45pm

U.S. Military Shooting and Burning Live Monkeys, Goats, and Pigs in Trauma Training

The Department of Defense is shooting and burning monkeys, pigs, and goats in combat training exercises for servicemen and servicewomen—even though more effective non-animal simulators are readily available. Leading medical experts agree that these simulators offer superior training. In addition to being cruel, this outmoded practice is a disservice to the men and women who risk their lives in defense of our country and who deserve the most effective trauma training methods available.

PETA is calling for an immediate end to all use of animals in trauma training exercises. Most medical schools long ago ended the use of animals for trauma training.

Many humane alternatives for trauma training are readily available, including the following:

• Having military level one trauma centers work with the community and take care of the entire population of their city
• The Combat Trauma Patient Simulation System, which "provide[s] realistic training" and dropped the trainee attrition rate from 23 percent to 6 percent, according to CHIPS (the U.S. Navy's information technology magazine)
• Simulab Corporation's TraumaMan system, which has been approved by the American College of Surgeons for teaching Advanced Trauma Life Support
• Dr. Emad Aboud's "living" cadaver perfusion model, which has been endorsed by more than 20 surgeons and used in surgical training at universities in the U.S. and abroad

You Can Help
Medical experts agree that there is no need to shoot pigs and goats and to burn monkeys with chemical weapons to teach soldiers and medics how to treat human injuries. Please help animals who are suffering in Department of Defense trauma training exercises by using the form below to send a quick message to Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates respectfully urging him to replace the use of animals with non-animal methods.

Please contact the Department of Defense today by filling out their Ask A Question web form.

Feel free to copy and paste the sample letter below or write your own.

Sample Letter

I was shocked to learn that the Department of Defense is shooting live pigs and goats and burning monkeys in trauma training exercises. There is no justification for this cruelty. The majority of medical schools in North America no longer use animals for medical trauma training, and more effective humane alternatives are readily available. I respectfully request that you adopt PETA's recommendations and take immediate action to end the needless suffering of animals in these outdated training exercises.

Barbaric US brutality on animals

animals for good earth... we used to hear this kind of trainings on dogs by terrorist chemical experts... one more time that there is no difference between a terrorist organization and US military

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maledustybunny | 5 August 2008 - 11:10pm

Shooting and burning monkeys, goats & pigs?

I guess that's one way of thinning out the US Congress

maleEdIsBack | 5 August 2008 - 11:26pm

I thought they shot one another?

See Dick Cheney for ref.

Oh wait he was an attorney Wink


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maleshifty | 6 August 2008 - 4:52am

Looks like hasty is scared they are coming after him.


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femalechana_batata | 6 August 2008 - 5:52am

You blokes know this is nothing more than another sad attempt.

Ah, what I love about Americans: they aren't afraid to talk about things, and work to rectify wrongs.


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maleWomble | 6 August 2008 - 6:17am

Sorry Hasta, I find this equally as barbaric as the ritualistic slaughter of the hundreds of millions of animals by yours and other religions, that aside it’s a pretty poor attempt at propaganda……


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malejimmy_blue | 6 August 2008 - 9:18am

I suspect it is the death of sheep that really upsets him.

malejoby | 6 August 2008 - 9:55am

" War is Hell"

maleflzapped | 7 August 2008 - 12:54am

This isn't even a legit news story. Who the hell is "Piko"? This is a PETA hit piece.

It's total BS, but fits the usual MO of Hasta, somehow it seems lost on the moderators though.

-Bruce


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femalechana_batata | 7 August 2008 - 1:18am

flzapped wrote:
This isn't even a legit news story. Who the hell is "Piko"? This is a PETA hit piece.

It's total BS, but fits the usual MO of Hasta, somehow it seems lost on the moderators though.

-Bruce

Oh I doubt it was lost on any mods, but we were all too busy torturing mosquitos to reply.


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maleflzapped | 7 August 2008 - 7:42pm

chana_batata wrote:
flzapped wrote:
This isn't even a legit news story. Who the hell is "Piko"? This is a PETA hit piece.

It's total BS, but fits the usual MO of Hasta, somehow it seems lost on the moderators though.

-Bruce

Oh I doubt it was lost on any mods, but we were all too busy torturing mosquitos to reply.

"Reply" was not the action I had in mind.

-Bruce


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femaleMean Kitteh | 7 August 2008 - 8:32pm

oh nooo, this is so sad. I have hard of animals being killed in survival training in the military, but that can be done humanely. This trauma training will cause so much suffering before death.


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femalechana_batata | 7 August 2008 - 9:57pm

flzapped wrote:
"Reply" was not the action I had in mind.

So what did you have in mind?


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malepietro della | 8 August 2008 - 7:44am

hasta: yes you!! you are despicable, and you are twisted in your thinking..do you sincerely expect us to believe that the turkey army does not undergo trauma training???tell us all why it is legit to use puppy dogs for this,,UNclean animal?? perfect! right on the nail..volunteer hasta,,see the downside..

malepietro della | 8 August 2008 - 7:50am

Afterall kurds aren't holy MOSLEMS are they,so what is the difference between them and unclean ANIMALS!!!

maleDerTURKE | 8 August 2008 - 8:00am

no kurds arent our target ..we are just try to how to fatten up kurds


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maleflzapped | 8 August 2008 - 10:29pm

chana_batata wrote:
flzapped wrote:
"Reply" was not the action I had in mind.

So what did you have in mind?

A word which contains the first, second, and fourteenth letters of the alphabet......

-Bruce


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malepietro della | 9 August 2008 - 1:54am

ammo??

malerubberduck | 18 August 2008 - 10:17am

The US Military executed and executes whole (human) communities without facing any consequences. So why should anyone be bothered if they shoot animals?


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maleshifty | 18 August 2008 - 2:01pm

rubberduck wrote:
The US Military executed and executes whole (human) communities without facing any consequences. So why should anyone be bothered if they shoot animals?

Full of shit again Ducky. Maybe ought to see about getting dumped.


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maleflzapped | 18 August 2008 - 3:13pm

rubberduck wrote:
The US Military executed and executes whole (human) communities without facing any consequences. So why should anyone be bothered if they shoot animals?

Really, and you get this brilliant lie where? -Bruce


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malehasta la vista | 18 August 2008 - 5:53pm

chana_batata wrote:
You blokes know this is nothing more than another sad attempt.

what does it have to do with 'US Military Shooting Live Animals For Training' American moderator?

chana_batata wrote:

Ah, what I love about Americans: they aren't afraid to talk about things, and work to rectify wrongs.

none of us asked what you love about Americans.


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malehasta la vista | 18 August 2008 - 5:54pm

chana_batata wrote:
flzapped wrote:
This isn't even a legit news story. Who the hell is "Piko"? This is a PETA hit piece.

It's total BS, but fits the usual MO of Hasta, somehow it seems lost on the moderators though.

-Bruce

Oh I doubt it was lost on any mods, but we were all too busy torturing mosquitos to reply.


as you scare to torture bigger animals to be eaten by them it's normal you're busy with torturing little ones which can't harm you.


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malehasta la vista | 18 August 2008 - 5:58pm

rubberduck wrote:
The US Military executed and executes whole (human) communities without facing any consequences. So why should anyone be bothered if they shoot animals?

BRAVO! that's the point of topic. to the US people none of the communities are important but themselves.

US people scare to admit their cruelity on not only animals but also humans. world witness it everyday... an actual truth. that is the reason Iraqis hate them although US claim they are serving freedom to Iraqis. it is too much strange and backs this cruelty


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femalechana_batata | 18 August 2008 - 6:11pm

hasta la vista wrote:
none of us asked what you love about Americans.

Just because you have a burning desire to spread hatred doesn't mean others can't comment.

hasta la vista wrote:
chana_batata wrote:
flzapped wrote:
This isn't even a legit news story. Who the hell is "Piko"? This is a PETA hit piece.

It's total BS, but fits the usual MO of Hasta, somehow it seems lost on the moderators though. -Bruce

Oh I doubt it was lost on any mods, but we were all too busy torturing mosquitos to reply.


as you scare to torture bigger animals to be eaten by them it's normal you're busy with torturing little ones which can't harm you.

Your inability to read minor sarcasm is your own personal problem, not anyone else's.

From here on out everyone gets back on topic. Discuss the topic at hand: If there are accusations made they should be backed up. Ones considered as excuses to attack or extraneous will be deleted.


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maleflzapped | 19 August 2008 - 12:43pm

hasta la vista wrote:
rubberduck wrote:
The US Military executed and executes whole (human) communities without facing any consequences. So why should anyone be bothered if they shoot animals?

BRAVO! that's the point of topic. to the US people none of the communities are important but themselves.

Oh how you just wish there was a shred of truth there......

The only truth here is that you only show up to put down my country, I for the life of me don't understand why the mods haven't seen this pattern and banned your hateful ass.

-Bruce


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femalekimmy16 | 23 August 2008 - 4:12pm

I'm not a great fan of the government of the US, I disagree with a lot of ideas and things they do and on how they sometimes act and I do think there might be some sicko's out there who do things that aren't appropiate(like throwing a puppy off a clif), but I don't think the whole damn army uses animals for target practise. If so then it'd be on the news ages ago!!!
Besides I think lots of people wouldn't want to shoot an animal anyways. There are animallovers in the army too.

If you leave out the Bush person, the racists, the extreme religious sektes, the homophobia, the war, the eternal hatred on communism and some ignorance some have there... US it a nice country. Smile
At least it will protect us if some crazy ass country tries to attack us.


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maleEdIsBack | 23 August 2008 - 4:41pm

What is there to like about communism?


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femaleHorizon | 23 August 2008 - 4:44pm

Kimmy16:
Your so right.. they DONT ONLY kill animals for practise, i BET their doing it on humans to..
like when they kidnaped people from their families, for the only reason of them thinking the person might could be an terrorist.. after some months of tortur the captured people got set free in the middle of no where. Doesnt surprise me that their killing and harming animals to.. Looking down

maleshifty | 23 August 2008 - 5:11pm

Horizon wrote:
Kimmy16:
Your so right.. they DONT ONLY kill animals for practise, i BET their doing it on humans to..
like when they kidnaped people from their families, for the only reason of them thinking the person might could be an terrorist.. after some months of tortur the captured people got set free in the middle of no where. Doesnt surprise me that their killing and harming animals to.. Looking down

I'll take that bet.


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femaleHorizon | 23 August 2008 - 6:28pm

shifty wrote:
Horizon wrote:
Kimmy16:
Your so right.. they DONT ONLY kill animals for practise, i BET their doing it on humans to..
like when they kidnaped people from their families, for the only reason of them thinking the person might could be an terrorist.. after some months of tortur the captured people got set free in the middle of no where. Doesnt surprise me that their killing and harming animals to.. Looking down

I'll take that bet.

Allrighty chief.