Atheism becoming a Religion?
Do you think that Atheism is fast becoming a structural sect not unlike a Religion?
Websites, meetings, conferences, and power in numbers. If not how are the two different?
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They certainly Loooove the religion channel, no doubt about that!
But yet science is their base, Hmmmm.
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They certainly Loooove the religion channel, no doubt about that!
But yet science is their base, Hmmmm.
But yet science is their base, Hmmmm.
The channel is Religion and Beliefs. My belief is amber ale. Would you like one Gary?
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. Robert M. Pirsig Evolve!
Personally I couldn't care less. Some or all atheists may disagree with me, but to me it is just a label and I've had quite enough of those in my lifetime. As long as it is not forced on me, 'Im not threatened by people's atheists beliefs, whether it is considered a religion or not.
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"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787.
They certainly Loooove the religion channel, no doubt about that!
But yet science is their base, Hmmmm.
But yet science is their base, Hmmmm.
The channel is Religion and Beliefs. My belief is amber ale. Would you like one Gary?
If you make mine with RUM!
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Religion is....
a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
so...........no!
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This may be a bit hard to vision but words like /I don't beleave there is a God, God doesn't exist, there is no God/ kinda says the same thing that those who believe in God say /I beleave in God, God is invisible, so the way I can see it both are in a sense saying the same belief. So next time someone tells you "God doesn't exist!" Those who believe shout out "Praise the Lord because I don't see him eather!" 
This may be a bit hard to vision but words like /I don't beleave there is a God, God doesn't exist, there is no God/ kinda says the same thing that those who believe in God say /I beleave in God, God is invisible, so the way I can see it both are in a sense saying the same belief. So next time someone tells you "God doesn't exist!" Those who believe shout out "Praise the Lord because I don't see him eather!"
So your answer to the question is?
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Labelling atheism as a religion by those believe is just the inherent need by believers to flock together and be part of the collective, most atheists myself included belong to no group, follow no doctrine and just have an individual disbelief in the existence of any deity, as for science being the foundation of atheism, not for me, religion has been the foundation of my disbelief…..
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My definition of Religiousness is to live and experience something that is beyond the physical senses. It means to live free, independent and self-responsible. It means to be free from any man-made scripture or God. Religiousness means to be free from organazied religions. It also means to ability to accept life with all its up's, down's and sideway's without needing a support from some invisible diety.
In this sense atheism is not a religion because an atheist desires to find his life purpose on his own. He wants to be happy and blissful without needing to believe in some diety who does not exist.
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"Once you accept all your responsibilities in its totality,
you become mature.
You stop throwing tantrums and
you stop seeking messiahs.
Then there is no need for any Jesus to save you.
Nor can any Jesus save you -
he was exploiting your situation." --- Osho
Most of all thes folks, calling themselves atheists are agnostics.
An atheist is pretending not to believe anything. An Agnostic is still searching.
There are differences, because many millions of human beings are searching for
the last answers, searching for something like god, but when they don`t find what they`re
looking for, they are no atheists yet.
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Alter Idem
A joke for all the atheists....hahaha!!
An atheist was taking a walk through the woods, admiring all that the "accident of evolution" had created. "What majestic trees! What a powerful river! What beautiful animals!" he said to Himself.
As he walked alongside the river he heard a rustling in the Bushes behind him. He turned to look and saw a 7-foot grizzly Charging towards him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in on Him. He ran even faster, so scared that tears were coming to his eyes. He looked over his shoulder again and the bear was even closer. His heart was pumping frantically and he tried to run faster still. He tripped and fell to the ground. He rolled over
to pick himself up, but saw the bear... right on top of him... reaching for him with the left paw and raising his right paw to strike him.
At that instant the atheist cried out "Oh my God, please help me..."
Suddenly, time stopped. The bear froze in motion. The forest was ever so silent. Even the river ceased to move. A brilliant ray of light emerged from the sky and shone upon the man. A powerful
Voice spoke to him, "You have denied my existence for all of these years; you teach others that I do not exist and you credit creation to a cosmic accident. Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you now as a believer?"
The atheist blinked directly into the light "It would be Hypocritical of me to convert to a Christian after all these years, but could you instead make the bear a Christian?"
"Very well," said the voice from above. The bright light disappeared. All of a sudden, life resumed around the man. The river ran again. The forest became alive once more with the gentle sounds of nature.
The bear stirred. Slowly, he lowered his right paw, brought both Paws together, bowed his head and graciously spoke: "Lord, for this food which I am about to receive, I am truly thankful."
Moral of the story: Even God will all his powers finds it easier to convert and convince a bear than an atheist. .
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"Once you accept all your responsibilities in its totality,
you become mature.
You stop throwing tantrums and
you stop seeking messiahs.
Then there is no need for any Jesus to save you.
Nor can any Jesus save you -
he was exploiting your situation." --- Osho
Lack of belief is not a religion. Or should we also have a "religion" for people who don't believe in, say, Easter bunny?
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"If we are going to teach creation science as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction." (Judith Hayes)
Now he’s picking on the dumb animals……..
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He thinks he has been doing that all along.
So websites, meetings, conferences now classify as criteria for a religion???
Have you people gone out of your mind? Don't you think? ... no need to answer that one.
Definition of religion:
A religion is a set of beliefs and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, or religious law. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and religious experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction.
~wikipedia
..... atheism defies all of these criteria. It's not a system of belief it's a lack of belief. We aren't centered about anything supernatural, we don't pray, we don't have rituals (at least not any specific ones that only apply to atheists, usually we tend to behave like anyone else).
Religion and Atheism do not oppose each other in the usual way. Atheism is as much point of view as common sense is. You're born with it. It's the default position.
We're not a religion, we're just normal.
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Atheism a religion? I don't think so, but you can think what you want. I don't care for the label 'Atheist', either. I prefer skeptic, or I suppose agnostic is okay. What's wrong with being skeptical of a god(s)? Does this threaten you? By no means do I try to force my beliefs on anyone else. They are my beliefs. Just as you have your beliefs. Relax. We'll all die one day, and then we'll know the truth.
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"Birds of a feather,flock together"..I have seen here on this channel many people of varying religions,who might usually be disparate,come together in mutual defence of their collective right to believe, and i have seen atheists of this shade or that unite in attack..this is not religion it is simple human nature.
There's lots of definitions for a 'religion', but one of the things that has to be there, is a common set of beliefs. If Christianity and monotheistic Buddhism are one and the same religion, then maybe there is a reason to say that also atheism is a religion.
But no, atheism isn't a stuctured or organised group of people, doesn't have a united set of points of belief, doesn't have 1 set of morals or values, and so on. Not even the lack of belief in deities is there, cause the definition of 'god' differs a lot from person to person.
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Daar is de lente, daar is de zon bijna, maar ik denk dat ze weldra zal komen. De fallus impudicus staat al in bloei En de blaadjes krijgen bomen. M'n vrouw en m'n kat zijn allebei krols en de klokken vertrekken naar Rome
And an agnostic is not an atheist, neither is scepticism atheism nor agnosticism.
Websites, meetings and all that, fine if they are there to discuss. Like where do atheist people get their morals and values from. The difference with say Christianity is, that at the end the atheists should all go their way with their own enriched views, but the church leaders would have made new agreements on them, leave with all the same view.
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Daar is de lente, daar is de zon bijna, maar ik denk dat ze weldra zal komen. De fallus impudicus staat al in bloei En de blaadjes krijgen bomen. M'n vrouw en m'n kat zijn allebei krols en de klokken vertrekken naar Rome
Now he’s picking on the dumb animals……..
Sounds to me like the guy was the dumb one. Doesn't he know when a bear charges running is the very last thing one should do? 
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"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787.
So websites, meetings, conferences now classify as criteria for a religion???
Have you people gone out of your mind? Don't you think? ... no need to answer that one.
Definition of religion:
A religion is a set of beliefs and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, or religious law. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and religious experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction.
~wikipedia
..... atheism defies all of these criteria. It's not a system of belief it's a lack of belief. We aren't centered about anything supernatural, we don't pray, we don't have rituals (at least not any specific ones that only apply to atheists, usually we tend to behave like anyone else).
Religion and Atheism do not oppose each other in the usual way. Atheism is as much point of view as common sense is. You're born with it. It's the default position.
We're not a religion, we're just normal.
"Have you people gone out of your mind?"...what? To ask a question and wanting people's opinion?
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Leaa’s title asks a question that is different from supposition “structural sect not unlike a Religion?” This being the case there is a similarity with some atheists forming an institutional system. Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens and several other modern day atheists inculcate their doctrine with the same gusto as many Christian acolytes. In Dawkins’ book, The God Delusion, he makes both an emotional and reasoned plea to agnostics to join the atheist movement. This is not much different than Christians making an emotional plea and fear to achieve their agenda. That is where the similarity ends.
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. Robert M. Pirsig Evolve!
Now he’s picking on the dumb animals……..
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It is a religion. Contrary to those that hop round crying differently, it is just their set of beliefs. And we can all see here how they love to "PREACH".
Ain't that the truth!!
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Lack of belief is not a religion. Or should we also have a "religion" for people who don't believe in, say, Easter bunny?
Atheism is not a lack of belief. It IS a belief there isn't a god. (as defines by those practicing the religion of atheism here) So in effect...it is merely a set of beliefs that differ from a set of beliefs in a supreme being. And if they preach it like they do here. It IS a religion. It's just funny to watch atheists cry when it is rightfully referred to as such.
Edit: It must be said that the atheist belief there is not god is no more provable that a belief in him. So they base their religion on what?
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@Shifty.... Does evangelical zeal count as another point? It seems very important to many athiests that they convince others to believe as they do.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than to live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.
Well they do preach it to high heaven here don't they?
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Only the ones that like to go on and on and on, just like the fundamentalist, and like to imply that they have the one and only truth and imply that anyone that may disagree with their ultimate truth is somehow lacking in some way or another.
Just those.
Otherwise, most people just believe as they believe and don't have to be crammed into a stinking box.
Everyone has their different reasons.
I'm cool with it. The differences.
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Atheists consider the existence of God as unlikely because they have no tangible evidence that one exists. God damn infidels, right? Atheism is in my opinion no religion or sect, as others happily designate them. And even if the atheists gather together and when their supporters become more and more, that shouldn't be a reason to reject, they are as normal as any other. Most Atheists were previously believers and have only changed their views, for whatever reason. One should rather ask the questions why that has happend. There are only a few who really aren't interested in the question of God's existence or non-existence. Unbelievable, but true, and the rising number is increasing.
Atheism is not a lack of belief. It IS a belief there isn't a god. (as defines by those practicing the religion of atheism here) So in effect...it is merely a set of beliefs that differ from a set of beliefs in a supreme being. And if they preach it like they do here. It IS a religion. It's just funny to watch atheists cry when it is rightfully referred to as such.
Well, is also funny, as believers moaning around as well when pointing out inconsistencies. Outi and Tiska are right, whether you want it or not. Some prefer to use their brains at first then instead of using their incredibly influenced faith for everything and everyone and thus to explain everything. And if a creditor feels superior because of his faith, fine, then let him believe that, if it is so satisfying.
Edit: It must be said that the atheist belief there is not god is no more provable that a belief in him. So they base their religion on what?
Likewise, it is not provable that there is a God! Atheism is based on different things, inform yourself. Or simply look through the channel, there are plenty of examples that have been listed already.
It seems very important to many athiests that they convince others to believe as they do.
Vice versa, heh? Bah, no I don't care what you do.
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It is a religion. Contrary to those that hop round crying differently, it is just their set of beliefs. And we can all see here how they love to "PREACH".
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