Heavenly Rewards Anyone?
The rewards in heaven for muslims according to the Koran:
"They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their heads nor take away their reason); with fruits of their own choice and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the dark-eyed houris (virgins), chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for their deeds... We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand..."
"'The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives (not virgins), over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a [Yemen]'."
Do you agree that these rewards are more tempting and interesting than the Christian heaven where all we get are angels on harps and a mansion ?
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I’m still looking forward to the fun palace known as hell, than any other mythical house of eternity…..
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virgins aren't all they're cracked up to be.![]()
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Very true, I definitely prefer experience. I have a question about virgins, are they to stay virgins and are they males?
Willie, not much to offer to females is there? It is just another sexist religion.
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Willie, not much to offer to females is there? It is just another sexist religion.
Well, I could certainly be wrong here but I have heard that the females are also rewarded with virgins.
Hmm..and from where I sit those women might actually be in a much deeper need for "virgins" given that they would seldom be the ones "blessed" with such a happening in the real world.
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This is one obvious proof that Islam is a false prophecy. No true God would reward people who are supposed to renounce the wordly life with sensual pleasures that can already be measured by us who we still are connected to the material realities. What does a soul want with a jewelled couch, servants (young handsome boys btw) and virgins? Ridiculous. Then why needing a heaven, what is promised to muslims can already be enjoyed by perverts in this life.
Where Christians get a reunion with their creator and saviour, muslims get a playboy mansion after the imagination of its sick founder in a seventh-century Arabian culture style, without any useful presence of allah they thought to serve for their whole life.
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Men with acne and still living with their mother?
The promise of such a thing by Islam does come across as perverted.
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Your english is pretty bad, learn some gramma - then get back.
Men with acne and still living with their mother?
The promise of such a thing by Islam does come across as perverted.
Hey..hey..
that's not fair..
anymore than you would say all female virgins would be dowdy little frumps..
But hey..I suppose you get to dream up your own version if all this hoopla is meant to be literal.
I suppose we owe them that explanation before slam dunking all their beliefs.
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Women don’t get what is promised to men, most go to hell anyway, but the few women who enter the islamic heaven are rebuilt young and beautiful with perpetual virginity and can choose to live with their husband together. Although the question remains if they enjoy seeing their husband satisfying his virility of hundred men with all the virgins and servants…
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Well Willie, this religion thinks you are going to Hell so you might as well enjoy yourself. Is there a religion that isn’t sexist?
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. Robert M. Pirsig Evolve!
@Flomany, The last thing I want to do is take up for the Muslim faith but I am certain that this extreme misogynistic view is not the only strain of belief around.
There are different facets..just as in Christianity..
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The mind seeks and the spirit yearns.
But the heart knows what the heart knows.
No worries here..
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The mind seeks and the spirit yearns.
But the heart knows what the heart knows.
There are different facets..just as in Christianity..
I don’t know any statement by Jesus that could lead to the interpretation that women get a different (worse) treatment in heaven than men or have a lower chance to go to heaven in general.
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How about the servants and wives. Surely, no one's version of paradise would be as a servant. Are the servants and wives sentenced there as an alternative to Hell?
No thanks, I'll take the Christian scenerio, with my kind of luck, I might end up as one of those servants with a straw bed!
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All in all...I think i'll go worship the rocks at the bottum of the garden.
They're sturdy, dependable and always there.
Plus they'll be good as a rockery on top of my grave.
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Your english is pretty bad, learn some gramma - then get back.
There are different facets..just as in Christianity..
I don’t know any statement by Jesus that could lead to the interpretation that women get a different (worse) treatment in heaven than men or have a lower chance to go to heaven in general.
You'll get no argument from me...there is no comparison between Jesus and Mohammad.
But that's not exactly the point..the whole notion of taking any interpretation of heaven in a literal sense simply makes no sense.
So, in heaven we would still get to have the same insecure ego that required all those chaste virgins..and penises for all our frolicking (and evidently still having to pee) and servants to wait on our lazy butts as we loll about and all the other earthly delights and creature comforts?
And the Christian version..streets of gold and precious stones, isn't it?
Last I heard..atheist, Christian and Muslim alike are pretty much on board with the idea that the body doesn't take that little outbound journey with us.
So no body to spoil and entertain..
I believe it's all meant to be metaphoric..all taken down to the human level of what those individuals desired.
And I suppose a little like explaining beauty to a blind person..
you have to do it on their terms for them to understand.
I will admit though..the Islamic version is a little more like becoming the evil emperor of which they hate.
But don't you think it's only fair that we allow them to interpret it?
I don't believe I've ever seen you agree whole heartedly with the atheist interpretation of the Bible.
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The mind seeks and the spirit yearns.
But the heart knows what the heart knows.
I heard somewhere the 72 were in fact grapes not virgins, and hey why should this version of heaven be any different than here, the majority of guys are led by their ………………………
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"Save a child use a condom"
I heard somewhere the 72 were in fact grapes not virgins, and hey why should this version of heaven be any different than here, the majority of guys are led by their ………………………
Yep,I also heard that one translation was really grapes..
Makes you wonder about a lot of things..
that's quite a leap.
Most men lead by their.........?
but that's what I mean...that's why it's all so relate able.....eh?
Many men (and women too) can imagine nothing better than sex and many men can not imagine any existence without their best buddy.
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The mind seeks and the spirit yearns.
But the heart knows what the heart knows.
Of course it is hardly possible for us to imagine being released from our body and to imagine the intensity of contentment in heaven. No words can express that. We can just try to come close to it through analogical conclusions. Nevertheless this doesn’t mean that the absolute spiritual contentment could be deduced from sensual pleasures of any kind.
“At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.” Mathew 22:30.
“For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit” Romans 15:17
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The new fascism won't say: "I am fascism", it will say: "I am the anti-fascism." Ignazio Silone
I don't remember reading that we'll even have a sex in Heaven
Why would it even be needed?
Heaven will be beyond all imagination. Humans can't 'think' on that vastly a scale.
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I have to agree that I do not trust that I would not end up as one of the servants I will stick with being a Baptist.
Good Answer!!!!
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Its not whether you get knocked down. Its whether you get up again.
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Spending eternity as some muslims servant is an unbearable thought. I like the Christian version of heaven better.
I no like to have virgins in heaven. I like better beautiful woman with experience and knows how to make me happy.















Might sound crazy to you, but many of the things you learn in life can put in danger your soul. With this being told, obviously, if you learn these rewards are the higest reward you can earn in your life, then you'll be heading to that point. Whereas i find it kind of funny, other might take it very seriously.
For a regular man that doesn't feel the power of freedom in his veins, this would fit perfectly. In my case I'd be seriously scared if i had 80000 servants, 72 women, rubies, pearls, whatever thing, etc, imagine such madness!
With this image all i can think is that you become some kind of king in a...strange world. But that's me, i'm ignorant, i wasn't born to be a king. Actually never liked kings, deities, presidents, etc...
Btw, haven't you noticed that almost all of the religions offer you rewards at the end of your life? what about current life, doesn't it matter at all? so why should we live? why dont we "born dead" and be happy and rewarded at once?
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